Curse

Lord Iowerth · Mar 30, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

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Originally Posted by Minus Sign

I don't see a spike unless ectos see recurring use in other chapters. The easiest way to stabilize a market is to flood it with more goods. Demand for the new goods starts high and drops. Look at TVs. Plasma is the rage right now, with LCD and prices are high. When it becomes easier to make them, prices drop and more people buy them. then fewer people want them. Whats the solution? Do we make TVs a disposible item? Sorta. We come out with the next "latest greatest" television and again, people rush out to buy it...at a higher markup.

Instead of TVs, GW gets weapons and armor. You don't need anything but Droks style equipment and a couple weapons on a level with yakslapper (and in its price range). certain builds may suggest more, but anything else is something of a luxury.

Still, some people insist that these items are a necessity, making it sound like owning a Plasma television is their constitutional right and congress (in this case Anet) should make it easy for all to buy.

Come on now. Think about what you're asking when you think this way. Asking Anet for a price stabilizer on Ectos is like asking congress to get Wal-Mart to give you an even trade when you take your old box-style television into their store and demand your shiny new plasma. Even trade, old for new.

Nope. Sorry; if you want the next uber item, you'll have farm the next uber farm. Just like everyone else

Erm, hey there Minus ... where did you get the idea I wanted ANet to stabilize the price of ectos?

I only made a comment about how having a "ticker" for ecto price would be neat, and state opinion that I think they will trend less expensive when factions comes out because everyone will want the "new" stuff, just as your post suggests ... did you mean to quote someone else?

Minus Sign · Mar 30, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth

Erm, hey there Minus ... where did you get the idea I wanted ANet to stabilize the price of ectos?

I didn't. i was agreeing with you and using your post as a jumping off for that semi-rant.

Perhaps a QFT would have cleared up the missunderstanding. :shrug:

So you know, I know GWGuru frowns on naming names, but when I'm talking to someone, I...name them. When I say "you" in a post, 9 times in 10 I mean John Q. Postreader.

Lord Iowerth · Mar 30, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Ahh, nevermind then. Disregard the PM as well.

I was worried that I might be implying something I didn't mean

I didn't get my feelings hurt or anything, I was just making sure I wasn't sending a mixed message out to J. Q. Postreader ...

Phoenix Ex · Mar 30, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

Well...I guess now would be the best time to get FOW armor, although according to what other people said, its pretty pointless to get it now since there's probably going to be another "grind for months" armor with different material.

Most people I know gave up on ecto collecting to see if whatever is in Faction would surpass the FOW armor at "have to have no life to get".

Others just want to wear faction armors because they look better.
Then there are those who didn't bother since there's so few ways to earn enough money for the armor without investing a ton to begin with (that would be me

).
Then there are those who got everything already with their maxed out account thanks to all those old "market resets" and the HoD sword.

Plenty of reason why Ecto is so unwanted now.

Arcanis the Omnipotent · Mar 30, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

FoW armor is going to be cheaper?
Uh... yay?

Just stating my own opinion for this, didnt read any of the rest of the thread. But if I were to take a guess I would say Anet is decreasing the price because half the poplulation atleast will be leaving Tyria and going to Cantha. Less people means less buyers or farmers. As the need goes down, prices will reduce.

That's my take anyway.

moonos · Mar 30, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

Here is something to think about,

Once japan and taiwan start getting Favor alot, ecto will drop even lower.

Hunter Sharparrow · Mar 30, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

Not if the Economy is seperate between the servers. Then it doesn't matter if they have the favor only we can effect our economy. Sounds to me that anet is almost forcing people to PvsP. Sure there will be all kinds of quest out there but it seems PvsP is required if you want to get the nicest gear soonest.

Cottage Pie · Mar 30, 2006, 04:35 AM // 04:35

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Originally Posted by William Stark

If there really are very few people using the trader to buy/sell their ecto, the worry it creates is tha a relatively small cabal could manipulate the price fairly easily, particularly in order to keep the price boosted.

I'm 100% certain that is the case, I have seen it done/done it myself with other cheaper trader prices.

dgb · Mar 30, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46

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Originally Posted by Hunter Sharparrow

Not if the Economy is seperate between the servers. Then it doesn't matter if they have the favor only we can effect our economy. Sounds to me that anet is almost forcing people to PvsP. Sure there will be all kinds of quest out there but it seems PvsP is required if you want to get the nicest gear soonest.

The economy is not seperate. It used to be seperate and they merged it.

Manic Smile · Mar 30, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

then why is ecto cheaper when we have favor and more expensive when we don't?

I'm not doubting you I"m just confused

Dav85 · Mar 30, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27

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Originally Posted by Manic Smile

then why is ecto cheaper when we have favor and more expensive when we don't?

I'm not doubting you I"m just confused

coincidence, and i don't even remember of this thing being so evident... considering that the last week ecto prices are always in the 6.5-7k range at the trader

plasmasword · Mar 30, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

To hell with ecto prices, I'm going to buy a ton of random currently unused rare materials while they are cheap, because im 90% sure they will be needed to craft the new cantha armor. If u guys wanna get rich, buy a ton of a random rare material and hope its needed when Factions comes out

stickyballs · Mar 30, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Lol, maybe 1 out of the 30 random rare materials I buy will be used

!!!

/sarcasm

I got 100 ecto at like 5.5k each when trader was at 6.5k and now that it has gone up 500g at trader, I sold it back for a tidy 50k profit. I do believe that 6-6.5k is the boundary (unless there is a reset or glitch or exploit, etc.) because it never seems to go any lower. It will just bounce back up or something.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Mar 30, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52

I belive the amber and jadite will symbol status within whichever faction...

I'm still betting FoW Forgemaster will expand his options once people own factions. c'mon he's a dead guy, what else is there besides learning what to make next...

I cant wait to see a 15K sentinals
hmm what armors will they call these... they arent ascention armors are they?

hey I bought 20 sum ecto at the trader for 6.5K, haggling is getting old; also bought shards at 4.4K cuz no one would sell me any at 4~4.2 penny pinchers

Angel Develin · Mar 30, 2006, 08:42 AM // 08:42

uuuhhhh I have bought jade and amber from rare material trader I have 3 in my storage, weird I ddi not give up any faction for it.

Cottage Pie · Mar 30, 2006, 10:21 AM // 10:21

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Originally Posted by Angel Develin

uuuhhhh I have bought jade and amber from rare material trader I have 3 in my storage, weird I ddi not give up any faction for it.

That's because everyone was selling it in cantha at the Beta weekend...I know some people have brought a small heap of it...but considering how easy/fun it is to earn with Faction/repeatable quests it's not gonna be worth much.

Cottage Pie · Mar 30, 2006, 10:24 AM // 10:24

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Originally Posted by plasmasword

To hell with ecto prices, I'm going to buy a ton of random currently unused rare materials while they are cheap, because im 90% sure they will be needed to craft the new cantha armor. If u guys wanna get rich, buy a ton of a random rare material and hope its needed when Factions comes out

I have stockpiles of claws, fangs and eyeballs...At most i will loose 50% of what i paid (a small sum considering how cheap they were) At best i'll make a few 1000% profit

Hunter Sharparrow · Mar 30, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

They merged them? That stinks..

Kidney Licker · Mar 30, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52

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Originally Posted by moonos

Here is something to think about,

Once japan and taiwan start getting Favor alot, ecto will drop even lower.

Tbh I think there's a good chance that ecto's and shards might go up as this is a new source of demand for FOW armour. I would think that the demand for FOW armour on the US and Europe servers would be pretty low now as everyone who wanted them would have gotten them or be well on the way towards it now. And I can imagine Taiwanese and Japanese players wanting FOW armour as a status symbol. Though this might only happen if GW takes off in those countries.

I do hope that there will be an ecto-sink in Factions, it'd be a shame to see the ecto market go off a cliff.

=HT=Ingram · Mar 30, 2006, 12:55 PM // 12:55

there is an elite armor set for factions as well. we have not seen it as yet...

The rumor has it, that it involves the under-city bonus area, and from there you are able to get to Underworld and Fissure from Cantha as well the new bonus area. Basically a Canthan version of ToA but with a little more to offer area wise, and much harder to get too. So I don't expect Ecto to be completely valueless in Factions. I anticipate a lot of people wanting the gems as well... as I am betting on some interesting features for those as well. One of the suggestions I had was for customizable jewelery to wear for character and pet customization... I never heard back on the idea, but it was something many seemed to like.